tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post1925971415864091276..comments2024-03-28T08:06:43.198-04:00Comments on The Silicon Graybeard: The Two Conflicting Stories of the Las Vegas Shooting SiGraybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-61320382244511211222017-10-15T19:20:09.855-04:002017-10-15T19:20:09.855-04:00oops, should be: 'forced to repeat lies'oops, should be: 'forced to repeat lies'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-60073602452910869352017-10-15T19:18:07.198-04:002017-10-15T19:18:07.198-04:00Why are they, seemingly intentionally, staying the...<i>Why are they, seemingly intentionally, staying the course on this unless the intent is to feed the speculation?</i><br /><br />Part of the way the human brain operates is that running a thought out the language+speech channel and in the hearing+language channel engages analysis which helps clean up mistakes. Thus 'thinking out loud' works. The opposite also works. Getting people to speak known falsehoods breaks down their personalities and reduces their sanity. When LEO are interrogating you, they attempt to maneuver and interrupt you to prevent you from saying "I'm innocent". The mere verbal declaration out loud reinforces the belief and the motivation behind the belief. It makes a person resist harder.<br /><br />How many lies have you been forced to repeat to stay employed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-71863978206457764502017-10-15T19:11:05.986-04:002017-10-15T19:11:05.986-04:00Why are they, seemingly intentionally, staying the...<i>Why are they, seemingly intentionally, staying the course on this unless the intent is to feed the speculation? </i><br /><br />"In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose o f communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to hu miliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When peo ple are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resis t anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."<br /><br />-- Theodore DalrympleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-43636186226522328892017-10-15T11:52:17.807-04:002017-10-15T11:52:17.807-04:00For whatever reason this attack was intended to fe...For whatever reason this attack was intended to feed into the gun control hysteria. I cannot know this man's mind, heart or reasons but if his goal was to kill as many people as possible he could have done better. But if his goal was to give the gun confiscators everything they wanted and needed to achieve their goal I don't know how he could have done any better. He didn't need 23 guns, two guns the same caliber would be optimal. He didn't need 100 round clips or belt feed guns (if they were in fact used) 30 round clips and for that matter 10 round clips would work fine. He didn't need a bump stock and likely the bump stock actually reduced the number killed and injured. There is something about this shooting we still don't know.<br /><br />Also I don't like feeding mindless conspiracy theories but this is exactly what the FBI and the Sheriff's office is doing. They could just be too stupid to understand this or too arrogant to care. But certainly by now they must understand that their actions are feeding the speculation. Why are they, seemingly intentionally, staying the course on this unless the intent is to feed the speculation? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-2514880754700681392017-10-14T14:44:12.931-04:002017-10-14T14:44:12.931-04:00The reason Harvey Weinstein is being disgraced now...The reason Harvey Weinstein is being disgraced now, "out of the blue", is because he botched the remake of Wag the Dog. Like Bill's war, it was for the benefit of a Clinton. Maybe the botch was intentional because Harvey secretly likes America as much as he likes beautiful women.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-74265261791745315272017-10-14T14:41:16.600-04:002017-10-14T14:41:16.600-04:00Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizin...Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal. We see that here.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-53076724883344411732017-10-14T13:01:26.842-04:002017-10-14T13:01:26.842-04:00Finally something intelligent from the mouth of Mr...Finally something intelligent from the mouth of Mr. Black leather "hate whitey" SLJackson. It is nice to see something worth reading that supposedly is attributed to him but everything I have ever seen or heard from the media and movies smacks of racism. But that statement is truth.<br /><br />Guns are not the problem. It is the heart and soul, the spirit of people who like many from history have no gumption about killing many people for their own glories, wealth, and satisfactions. I like the quote from Frontpage magazine that says "INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ<br /><br />What we keep seeing from the Left, Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, whatever they want to be called today, is exactly in that quote. They want to control others.<br /><br />And as President Trump said just today "And above all else, we know this: In America, we don’t worship government — we worship God." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-40607832525944212612017-10-14T12:44:23.398-04:002017-10-14T12:44:23.398-04:00Most authorities really are cowardly, stupid and i...Most authorities really are cowardly, stupid and incompetent. Waco started out as an ATF fundraiser, to motivate the need for itself. Maybe this is another ATF fundraiser, and most participating authorities thought it would be a public bust of a scary setup before the attack happened. Then a rare authority who is capable tweaked the stupid and incompetent to fumble the management so it wasn't stopped in time. Result: bigger fundraiser. Similarly, who got out of the passenger side of the truck at Oklahoma City, was it the FBI employee managing the bomber, and where is the video of it?<br /><br />The national intelligence system didn't predict the collapse of the Soviet Union, because they mostly produced James Bond movie plots for the press. Maybe this is the same system failing to predict that nobody will be turning in guns, no matter what lone wolf story appears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-60925946769547703212017-10-14T09:46:50.142-04:002017-10-14T09:46:50.142-04:00One more time:
It is the LVMPD, the BATFE, and th...One more time:<br /><br />It is the LVMPD, the BATFE, and the FBI who are running this "investigation". Do a little research and understand just how honest and forthcoming those organizations truly are. Quite frankly, I do not believe even one word from any of them. But go ahead and take that blue pill if you choose. The Deep State needs you.Mark Matisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-27032587610804679532017-10-14T09:35:23.771-04:002017-10-14T09:35:23.771-04:00What IF. What if this guy didn't shoot anybody...What IF. What if this guy didn't shoot anybody? What if he was dead before the whole thing started? What if this had only one goal from the beginning? What if that goal was an end to the "second"? Most of you wrote after "Sandy Hook" that because that attack failed to garner support for universal gun confiscation, that there would be another, larger attack. What if there was? We can play the what if game all day. But here is what we know. Nothing. I believe that is what we will know about this five years from now. If it isn't largely forgotten. Nothing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-57440146193729435532017-10-14T08:42:30.306-04:002017-10-14T08:42:30.306-04:00With regard to the Las Vegas atrocity, the discuss...With regard to the Las Vegas atrocity, the discussion above assumes that the supposed perpetrator did in fact act alone, that this is about HIS motives. I would beware of that assumption; the evidence I have seen and heard makes me doubt that narrative. <br /><br />There is a great deal of discrepancy between The Narrative that the media and PTB are pushing, and the evidence from witnesses on the ground contradicts what The Narrative says. Moreover, The Narrative is changing day by day.<br /><br />I can think of a number of reasons why this might be. The simplest is that the authorities really are as cowardly, stupid and incompetent as it appears, but I doubt that.<br /><br />Next is the possibility that TPTB know there were multiple other shooters, and are looking hard for them, but don't want them knowing that.<br /><br />Finally, there is the possibility that there are multiple players involved on all sides, and the turmoil we see in The Narrative is a sign of the conflict raging beneath the surface.<br /><br />Pick one, or come up with your own scenario. In this situation, speculation on *why* thousands of innocent people were attacked, hundreds wounded, and dozens killed is futile.<br /><br />The question we all need to ask, the one that really is worth thinking about is- "Qui Bono?" Who benefits from this? If you answer that question honestly, it will lead you to the 'why' and the 'who.' Qui Bono?Historianhttp://www.libertyhollow.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-47967291439812424772017-10-14T05:18:06.858-04:002017-10-14T05:18:06.858-04:00Our Constitution was made only for a BLUGPERT and ...<i>Our Constitution was made only for a BLUGPERT and YACCABLUM people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.</i><br /><br />Without quantifiable definitions for BLUGPERT and YACCABLUM, which are measurable repeatably and objectively by some procedure, the statement is meaning-less non-sense. You're repeating the mistake I called out, your tape measure is printed on a rubber band. You're trying to measure a people against moral concepts whose imprecision in definition is larger than the difference in populations you're trying to measure.<br /><br /><i>So, how many times and places prior to that date did someone outside of a war amass same, and shoot up a crowd the size of Paddock's tally, or anything like?</i><br /><br />"War" suggests the idea of specific political results as a motivation, that millions knew of the goal beforehand, and that the act was plausible to produce the goal. The "shoot" qualifier removes all the previous record holder single-actor spree killings, which were done by arson. The KKK? Weather Underground? Oklahoma City? Unibomber? 9/11? Muslims bombing schools, shopping centers, Orlando nightclub?<br /><br />The Vegas shooting doesn't stand out for me as a qualitatively new and different anything. He did it from a tall building because it worked, just like 9/11 hijacked airplanes because it worked. That's just a planning detail, not a new willingness for individuals to attack larger numbers of victims. Maybe the next one will blow up a blimp over a stadium. Wait, that's already a movie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-88117020762706947922017-10-14T03:24:08.259-04:002017-10-14T03:24:08.259-04:00Perhaps because the person who made the statement ...Perhaps because the person who made the statement wasn't trying to prove a mathematical point, but rather a moral and philosophical one.<br /><br />Cannon and machineguns, among other things, were readily available to common folks as recently as 1933, and still are in many states.<br /><br />So, how many times and places prior to that date did someone outside of a war amass same, and shoot up a crowd the size of Paddock's tally, or anything like?<br /><br />Would that be "none"?<br /><br />So the answer to your question is "more morality and religious belief than is present at the current time, and at least as much as was on hand some decades prior, before this sort of thing became commonplace."<br /><br />A thermometer is a nice thing to have, but cleverly, you have eyes to tell you when the flame under the pot is low enough to start or stop the pot from boiling, without knowing the exact degrees in either Farenheit or Centigrade when the phenomenon has begun or ceased, nor the altitude at which you're cooking, which impinges on the activity as well. That's why thermometers and barometric altimeters are seldom specified in cooking dinner.<br /><br />That's the difference between recipes for cooking, and specifications for engineers. Both are useful items, but neither are interchangeable, nor is one required to accomplish the other's task.<br /><br />Please take your straw man, with notable utility in his intended venue, and put 'im back in the cornfield.<br />That doesn't require 10-digit grid co-ordinates either. Somewhere near the middle, where it'll do to frighten birds, should suffice.<br /><br />And note than when the material specified is highly-advanced carbon-based living organisms, rather than homogenous steel beams, the metrics will be far more empirically derived rather than measured with scientific instrumentation, owing hugely to the complicated nature of the machinery involved.<br /><br />So one had also stop trying to investigate the most complex and least understood organism on the planet, and figure it out with a yardstick.<br /><br />That's like looking for your lost wallet, not where it went missing, but under a nearby street light, because the light is better over there.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-54143085288643984402017-10-14T02:50:59.332-04:002017-10-14T02:50:59.332-04:00Our Constitution was made only for a moral and rel...<i>Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.</i><br /><br />Suppose you designed a bridge, and specified the steel to be "strong enough". How strong? You won't say. When copies of the bridge fall repeatedly, you say the steel was never strong enough. This makes the bridge design nondisprovable.<br /><br />The amount of morality and religion, the percentage of government employees eligible for sainthood, isn't specified numerically. This means the Constitution's design can never be disproven by lousy real world performance. Fault is always said to fall entirely on the people and none on the design.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-61295585640104944422017-10-13T23:38:03.327-04:002017-10-13T23:38:03.327-04:00SiG, I don't think we - even "us" ag...SiG, I don't think we - even "us" agnostics/non-believers - forgot it. I think our schools, our media, our courts, our liberal agencies and institutions, have been deliberately moving us away from it for well over a hundred years. From banning prayer in school, to shutting down nativity scenes, to legalizing the murder of unborn - and _just_ born babies. (If "post-birth" abortion isn't murder, I don't know what is.)<br /><br />It is getting worse now, accelerating. Same sex "marriage". Transgenders. Gender "identity". States that pass laws to fine or arrest you for not using the proper freaking _pronoun_. "Hate speech" laws in Canada, Britain, Germany, Sweden, etc. Allowing muslims to publicly rant about killing us infidels, destroying America or Israel, but not charging _them_ with "hate speech".<br /><br />The Left has had the game plan in place for many, many years, and it is all coming to fruition. When Christianity is all but against the law, and muslims are allowed to not only ignore our laws, but promote shariah and apply in American cities, we can see it wasn't us forgetting, it was us who believe in the Judeo-Christian moral code having it ripped out of our hands, out of our culture, and our children having it ripped out of their minds and hearts.Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-73926137963457631442017-10-13T22:52:29.117-04:002017-10-13T22:52:29.117-04:00One of the country's worst mistakes was forget...One of the country's worst mistakes was forgetting that. <br />SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-76643698744350192972017-10-13T20:23:29.537-04:002017-10-13T20:23:29.537-04:00"Our Constitution was made only for a moral a..."<i><b>Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.</b></i> - John AdamsAesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.com