tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post4700584473765033365..comments2024-03-29T09:08:47.702-04:00Comments on The Silicon Graybeard: Opioid Control and Gun ControlSiGraybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-46662531770321606592019-03-03T14:24:43.733-05:002019-03-03T14:24:43.733-05:00I went through an issue related to this with my wi...I went through an issue related to this with my wife. She had outpatient abdominal surgery and she had muscle spasms later that evening. She was screaming her head off because she was in so much pain. She was taken by ambulance and in the ER they refused to give her pain meds. Because they thought she was an addict, despite having surgery earlier in the day. I was so pissed, but I knew exactly why they were doing it- because they cared more about stopping somebody from getting their jolly’s off than a person in pain. Patrick Henry, the 2ndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10875023999017392196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-71625201272382350552019-03-02T22:30:58.600-05:002019-03-02T22:30:58.600-05:00Been in healthcare 40+ years....working with docto...Been in healthcare 40+ years....working with doctors all day every day. The problem is multifaceted. First of all conflating effective treatment of pain by a professional with eventual drug abuse is flat out wrong. However doing so provides the convenient excuse for bureaucrats and apparatchiks to DO WHAT THEY DO.....CONTROL THINGS. And control is the driving force behind virtually EVERYONE who seeks public office and power over others. Another complicating factor is that there IS a problem with opioid drugs being over prescribed by doctors. Every state has a handful of MD's who are essentially running 'pill mills' to get rich. Big Pharma offers inducements to doctors to prescribe their products.....including pain meds like Oxycontin. These inducements and the temptation to make easy money ( and while a minority there ARE plenty of doctors who went to med school for ONE REASON....to get rich) lead a few docs to write scrips by the thousands. And they do this for quite a while before the state<br />inevitably steps in and prosecutes. But the wheels of government tend to grind slowly as the aphorism states. So a LOT of damage is done before these bad apples are plucked and prosecuted. And the mainstream physician community tends to turn a blind eye to these bad apples. One of the failings of the physician community is the near total reluctance to discipline other doctors. Physicians are reluctant to hold their associates accountable because to do so would expose THEM to the same risk of being second guessed. And since the doctors won't do it....and NOBODY ELSE but the courts CAN do it this leads to a lot of abuses.<br />Like over prescribing by some leading to onerous regulation by the laws. <br />What's the solution? Good question. But I do know that leaving the problem to be dealt with by laws and lawyers is not and never will be the best solution.<br />Using the courts and laws to deal with such problems is a 'killing flies with a hammer' approach. The fly may die but the damage done by the hammer is seldom minimal.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-29836251032376676882019-03-02T15:13:57.861-05:002019-03-02T15:13:57.861-05:00To take McChuck's comment above as a segue: i...To take McChuck's comment above as a segue: isn't medical marijuana, for pain management, the lead argument for legalization? Big Mary-Jane has partnered with the taxing entity known as the State of California to actively drive free-market farmers out (who knew California wasn't really that into supporting the little guy).<br />Lots of establishment tall dogs are fully vested in Big M-J. Not that anyone would try to monetize another human beings pain.<br /><br />I can see why Doctors take the CDC recommendations as mandatory. If they don't and there's a problem they will be sued into oblivion by some grifter lawyer. Jurys will assume that the recommendations are necessary and prudent, why else would a gov't entity go to all the trouble to issue them. The Gov't is there to help and would never be capricious, irresponsible, or have a hidden agenda, just ask James Comey or Andrew McCabe. They'll vouch for the Institution's integrity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-90151866118981618842019-03-02T15:10:49.973-05:002019-03-02T15:10:49.973-05:00You receive all the laws you will obey. They alre...You receive all the laws you will obey. They already took away affordable healthcare. They keep asking for your guns. If they think you would get on white prison buses to internment camps, they will send them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-41814140216908246442019-03-02T12:12:18.858-05:002019-03-02T12:12:18.858-05:00As one who has depended on opioids to approximate ...As one who has depended on opioids to approximate functionality since the mid-70s this scares the shit out of me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-5215852154503987092019-03-02T10:12:32.346-05:002019-03-02T10:12:32.346-05:00Chaplain Tim at the blog, "Blue Collar Preppi...Chaplain Tim at the blog, "Blue Collar Prepping" described the mess he is in.<br />http://bluecollarprepping.blogspot.com/2019/02/medications.html<br /><br /><br /><br />John in Phillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196033252818387245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-71450626759857447292019-03-02T08:44:28.126-05:002019-03-02T08:44:28.126-05:00Pain medications are overly regulated, because of ...Pain medications are overly regulated, because of all the "pain clinics" that were dealing tens of thousands of pills per day. We see the exact same thing no with "medical" marijuana. There is no such thing as medical marijuana, BTW. There is medical THC oil, available by prescription from real doctors for real ailments in all 50 States.<br /><br />I have compassion for people in pain. They need their medications to get through the day, due to no fault of their own.<br /><br />The heroin junkies should be fed to alligators on pay-per-view, not handed more drugs and needles paid for by taxpayers.McChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10243337792601085456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-53582573285651232432019-03-02T08:22:09.068-05:002019-03-02T08:22:09.068-05:00Where does the authority to regulate opioids come ...Where does the authority to regulate opioids come from? If a constitutional amendment was required to regulate alcohol, then why not "drugs"?<br /><br />Opioids were over-the-counter product in the nineteen-teens, and then this whole regulatory scam came about, making millions for many. When one realizes "who benefits", is it sensible to think that the problems will ever be resolved?<br /><br />Either insist on the proper authority, or remove the baseless "requirements", that is the root cause solution.milton fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04222904984648426127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-34795943005187552772019-03-02T02:29:40.790-05:002019-03-02T02:29:40.790-05:00I live with a person in chronic pain. It is scary...I live with a person in chronic pain. It is scary the control the government has over her life. Restricting our movements (must go to doctor every 30 days, must not go to doctor 27 days from seeing doctor... Pills can only be refilled 28 days after last time, so our lives revolve around every 30 days.) And God forbid us use one of those pill minders and have her opioids in them and we get pulled over because, OMG, we're drug dealing/drug using illegal drug users according to the State, the Feds, and every cop in existence if we don't keep the opioids in their original container and don't have more pills than the prescription allows, OR get caught with a container that has too few pills in it because that means SHE or I are using too many rather than being smart and using pill minders at home...<br /><br />Weeee… Are we having fun yet? Because... Well, if you're on chronic pain opioid regime then the Fed Gov mandates the user pee-in-a-cup to make sure the user isn't illegally using. <br /><br />And then the real pisser is, as soon as the hospital you are admitted to for, oh, say, a septic gall bladder, finds out that you are on a chronic pain opioid regime, they come flying at you with the NARCAN and take every last drop out of your high levels of opioids out of your system, which because your body is chemically addicted (even though you are not psychologically addicted) to the opioids it (your body) goes into a sudden rapid withdrawal, which shuts your body down like, oh, say, unto death... <br /><br />To top off this shite-fest of evilness, the hospital will now give you short-acting small amounts of the long-lasting high levels of opioids that you use to KILL THE DAMNED CHRONIC PAIN. And then, because you've crashed two or more times because of that nasty physical addiction thing, and the low levels of immediate release don't stop the FRAGGIN PAIN THAT IS TEARING YOU APART, you get no sleep and no rest and no healing at all because excruciating pain... (unless some smartass spouse slips you your pain meds when the staff isn't looking...)<br /><br />All because some jerks are killing themselves on heroin and illegally gotten opioids.<br /><br />Our solution to the problem children out there? One dose/series of doses of NARCAN for your first overdose on illegal drugs (whether illegal-illegal drugs or illegally obtained or illegally used drugs) and that's it. One chance of redemption only.<br /><br />After all, that's what they are doing to my wife every time she has to go to the doctor or to a hospital.<br /><br />It's to the point I want to track down these idiots, give them a huge dose of NARCAN and ask them pointedly what is so friggin bad in their lives that they have to screw up everyone elses? And if they can't give me a good reason, time to push them off the Cliffs of Oblivion or some other high spot.<br /><br />GAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!<br /><br />Other than that, how's the weather?<br />Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-30685570371246454422019-03-01T22:53:09.697-05:002019-03-01T22:53:09.697-05:00The conflation with heroin addiction and "the...The conflation with heroin addiction and "the opioid epidemic" is a distraction and a justification for almost anything. They are two different issues and if opioids are not going to be used to control chronic pain, something must be used in its place. I agree with you. I smell a scam.LLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05538854359365988863noreply@blogger.com