tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post7340733130689909072..comments2024-03-28T08:06:43.198-04:00Comments on The Silicon Graybeard: Techy Tuesday - Aluminum ArmorSiGraybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-61775830155611702172013-10-24T06:28:20.892-04:002013-10-24T06:28:20.892-04:00Aluminium burns rather well, ask the Falkland sail...Aluminium burns rather well, ask the Falkland sailors that survived HMS Sheffield what they think of aluminium as armour.<br /><br />http://www.g2mil.com/aluminum.htmRobChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07495024548913451231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-4125975301666471352013-10-23T19:45:16.198-04:002013-10-23T19:45:16.198-04:00Excellent bunch of comments. Especially thanks to...Excellent bunch of comments. Especially thanks to Old NFO, and weambulance who bring some perspectives I can't. <br /><br />War is always a series of moves and counter moves, right? Trades and counter trades. <br /><br />Anon 1221, I'm not sure who you mean by Them, Alcoa or the Army? Alcoa? Sure, with the same look I'll give anyone trying to sell me a "new amazing product". Army? Probably. Everyone I've personally known has been an honorable, decent person. In this case, I have no reason to doubt their test results. <br />SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-52620037436037269702013-10-23T12:31:37.373-04:002013-10-23T12:31:37.373-04:00Trade off, weight vs. protection... And of course ...Trade off, weight vs. protection... And of course NONE of those making that decision will actually have to RIDE in them under fire... And no, they will not protect against the newer Iranian burn through jet IEDs.Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-69796576389382818972013-10-23T09:59:23.403-04:002013-10-23T09:59:23.403-04:00Neat stuff. However, if your vehicle is on fire lo...Neat stuff. However, if your vehicle is on fire long enough to degrade the heat treatment of the aluminum armor and you're still behind it under fire, you're seriously doing it wrong. Given the stuff that burns inside a typical military vehicle (like ammo, fuel, and big tires that explode) you should be getting the hell away from your vehicle ASAP if it's on fire and you can't control it.<br /><br />Ground vehicle armor is about protecting soldiers from shrapnel and small arms fire, not direct hits from anti-armor weapons, be they HEAT, long rod penetrators, explosive formed penetrators, or whatever else. Any armor that is practical on a mobile system is fairly easy to defeat with man portable weapons; that's just how it is and how it will always be.<br /><br />If they can improve the strength of the armor without increasing weight, or retain strength and decrease the weight, great. I'd take the extra speed over the extra strength, personally. But until we have some magic/sci-fi energy shields or something, a dug-in infantry heavy weapons squad will have no trouble at all taking out the toughest tanks in the world.<br /><br />Just one of the many reasons wars are won with low-tech infantry, not the high-tech toys everyone oohs and aahs over.<br /><br />- weambulanceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-22171325744201135382013-10-23T09:33:08.914-04:002013-10-23T09:33:08.914-04:00Sounds like thermite would weaken it sufficiently....Sounds like thermite would weaken it sufficiently. They're thinking too hard about bullets and not thinking enough about their opponents getting creative.Blog Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08294787592544255585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-58854274224118677222013-10-23T06:29:31.776-04:002013-10-23T06:29:31.776-04:00Back in the day the Army used to tell the troops t...Back in the day the Army used to tell the troops that Kevlar would stop an AK-47 round and ballistic fragments moving at 3000FPS. In the early days of the M-2 program "they" said it would stop an M-2 .50Cal. round and was RPG proof. Can you say PROPAGANDAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-46153957839380679082013-10-23T03:35:14.172-04:002013-10-23T03:35:14.172-04:00What temperature does it light at? How does that ...What temperature does it light at? How does that compare to the jet from a HEAT round?<br /><br />You know, like the bog standard RPG?<br /><br />Remember the M2 Bradley? Remember why it had to become the M2A1? It's got something to do with the 13th element...Angus McThaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09295013525738248801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-15873232518068148972013-10-23T00:21:59.878-04:002013-10-23T00:21:59.878-04:00I think a fair place to end this is the simple que...I think a fair place to end this is the simple question, "Would you trust Them?" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com