tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post8616725199241575141..comments2024-03-28T08:06:43.198-04:00Comments on The Silicon Graybeard: Continuing Education for ShootersSiGraybeardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-23159626200014109482011-07-28T22:17:32.030-04:002011-07-28T22:17:32.030-04:00Graybeard,
Heh.
Not just like that, but .40 will...Graybeard,<br /><br />Heh.<br /><br />Not just like that, but .40 will be overrepresented by cops engaged in circular firing squads across half a parking lot, while Ruger Mk.II's are more likely to be involved in Joe Homeowner shooting an intruder right up in his face.<br /><br />Shootin' Buddy has been involved in two homicide trials, both one-shot DRT's. One was a .410 slug and one was a Ruger 10/22. Both were single shots to the heart. The 10/22 went through a front door first.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-18686761658093487692011-07-28T18:51:39.790-04:002011-07-28T18:51:39.790-04:00LeverAction - Yeah, man!LeverAction - Yeah, man!SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-8236740555060800702011-07-28T18:49:21.451-04:002011-07-28T18:49:21.451-04:00Tam - like this? (at about 30 seconds in, but the...Tam - like <a href="http://youtu.be/KZQSo5VCJic" rel="nofollow"> this?</a> (at about 30 seconds in, but the whole clip is worth watching)SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-9437044890191971142011-07-28T18:35:05.306-04:002011-07-28T18:35:05.306-04:00I like my .45 caliber handguns. I shoot them bett...I like my .45 caliber handguns. I shoot them better than either 9mm or .40 S&W so that's what I carry. However, if I was to go for a pocket gun then I would choose .380 or a 9mm, or maybe even a revolver in 38 Special or .357 Magnum - man, ain't freedom grand?LeverActionhttp://leveraction.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-28949460607093890942011-07-28T13:05:57.726-04:002011-07-28T13:05:57.726-04:00Didja spot the built-in sampling error in his data...Didja spot the built-in sampling error in his data?<br /><br />(Hint: Between, say, .40 and .22LR, which caliber is more likely to have been involved in dynamic shootings at ten yards rather than single-shot killings at two feet?)<br /><br />But, yeah, given the caveat of modern expanding handgun bullets, there's really not much to choose from between service calibers.Tamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07285540310465422476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-17421425498814375342011-07-27T19:07:24.082-04:002011-07-27T19:07:24.082-04:00Thanks for an interesting idea for some more colum...Thanks for an interesting idea for some more column space.SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-83483395898883216602011-07-27T04:00:49.304-04:002011-07-27T04:00:49.304-04:00When trying to decide what is significant and what...When trying to decide what is significant and what isn't, I usually take anything based on plain statistics and throw it out the window. Marshall and Sanow, two cops who did a "study" (since completely discredited) on "stopping power", were a couple of cops/ex-cops who cherry=picked data from an enormous variety of unconnected and unequivalent shootings to determine what calibers were most effective, including a myth of "one shot stops".<br /><br />When looking to the real world, especially in the effectiveness of ammunition, I tend to think the military - especially in places where there have been many thousands of shootings, like Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. - provides the best data available.<br /><br />The Moro uprisings in the Phillipines caused the military to switch from a .38 caliber ammunition to the .45, because the .38s were frequently not effective at stopping Moro warriors, while the .45 was often effective. More recently, the military has given excellent reason to believe the 9mm is often ineffective, and a number of military units that have a choice in what caliber they use have switched back to the .45.<br /><br />Any ammunition can be effective under the right circumstances, especially with proper placement. Overall, though, especially with troops that do not get the best training with handguns, nor the most effective ammunition (FMJ vs hollow points), real world results measured over many thousands of uses indicate that caliber is indeed significant.<br /><br />Statistical analyses do not always prove out in the real world. They can sometimes be useful for generalizing or in determining trends, but it is too easy to miss significant data, overweight some data, or be used to justify someone's personal agenda. <br /><br />Medical forensics, such as those done by Dr. Martin Fackler from wound ballistic studies he began back in Vietnam, and real world results in large scale armed conflicts provide us with reason to believe that caliber counts, that penetration is paramount, the "hydrostatic shock" being a significant factor is a myth, and that one-shot stops should be placed under your pillow, in hopes the Bullet Fairy will leave you some spare change.<br /><br />That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.Reg Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1592992209402300549.post-9364812630007524432011-07-26T22:02:10.420-04:002011-07-26T22:02:10.420-04:00Interesting data! I will always fall back to a per...Interesting data! I will always fall back to a person that has a Pistol and will use it effectively period. I did not mention a caliber in that statement. <br /><br />The first rule of winning a gunfight is to have a gun. Too heavy, can't conceal, hurts to carry, etc. means it stays home. And it is totally useless. <br /><br />Excellent Post!Keadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09982258812373127063noreply@blogger.com