Friday, September 14, 2012

If We Had Competent Leadership - Libya Edition

If we had a competent government, with a commander in chief who knew what he was doing, and a state department that understood the world, we wouldn't need to talk about this.  If we had a competent government that wasn't infiltrated at every level with Muslim Brotherhood, CAIR and Organization of Islamic Conference agents, who removed every reference to jihadism or Islamic radicals from FBI and other agency training materials, we wouldn't need to talk about this.  If we had a competent government that was concerned about protecting, not just us "flyover country yokels" but their own coworkers, we wouldn't need to talk about this.  Even if we just had competent Pentagon leadership who said, "I don't care what State says, guards need ammo", we might not need to talk about this. 

But we don't have any of the above.  So we need to talk about the best way of handling the situation.  Certainly the best at the time would have been, oh, a couple of 2000 lb smart bombs right in the rioting crowd.  You know that most of the bad actors were there, and injury to innocents would be minimized.

I don't think that the answer is to carpet bomb the area, or park a battleship offshore and shell.  99% of the people don't know who did what and I bet most of them don't even care.  At this point, I think the best course is the stuff we are worst at humint - human intelligence.  People on the ground who can get details on where certain people are.  A few Predators putting Hellfire missiles through the right windows might get some respect.  Someone in a high enough position in Libyan intelligence to know that our ambassador was in a safe house, so that he could be attacked and killed there, needs a Hellfire or two up his ass - sort of a retribution in kind.  As Stormbringer puts it:
As many as 400 attackers took part in a coordinated military-style assault on the consulate in Benghazi. This kind of organized operation makes mockery of the theory that these attacks are any kind of emotionally-fueled reactions to a goofey movie on YouTube.

The attackers not only hit the consulate in Benghazi, they knew the location of a classified safe house where the ambassador and security personnel withdrew to after the initial hit. This is where our ambassador's vehicle was fired upon with RPG rockets, and he was subsequently killed and his body dragged through the streets. It is not certain whether he was sodomized before or after he succumbed to his wounds and smoke inhalation.
A new site I've recently found, The Diplomad 2.0,  presents an interesting read "We're Not At War ... Just Under Attack"
The reason we see deranged or at least nasty and unpleasant dictators in the Arab world is that Arab societies are deranged, nasty and unpleasant--thanks largely to the brand of Islam practiced in those societies which is particularly deranged, nasty, and unpleasant. In the Arab world you can have a brutal authoritarian who tries to restrain the even more brutal religious fanatics, or you can have religious fanatics who lash out at anyone who does not see the world as they do.
Diplomad 2.0's profile says, "Long time US Foreign Service Officer; now retired; have served all over the world and under all sorts of conditions. Convinced the State Department needs to be drastically slashed and reformed so that it will no longer pose a threat to the national interests of the United States."  Worth reading.

While it might be too quiet and we want a public show for the "deranged, nasty and unpleasant" Arab street, I personally wouldn't mind something like the happy ending scene in "The Sum of All Fears", where the folks who orchestrated the atomic bombing of Baltimore all get taken care of.


  1. Carney, the carnival barker, states this is all about a 'video' and has nothing to do with US 'policy'.

    How many times do these liars get caught with their pants on fire with no pushback?

    Right though, we don't need a big show of cruise missiles dropping on market squares...and as for taking care of business, I'd guess that would leave a lot of job openings in assorted mid east govt offices.

    But I stlll see an opening for the prevaricator in chief to have his big show as he sends MEF to the shores of Tripoli, and Yemen, and Syria, and Lebanon, and ...... a show sure to warm a neo con's heart and give the mighty kenyan a landslide victory.

    1. I was silently screaming at Carney, "just how many of these people do you think even saw that video?". In a poverty stricken country of mostly illiterates, how many even have an internet connection?

      Now, the Feds are apparently trying to round up the guys who made the movie in another stunning blow to the first amendment.

  2. Greybeard, The only way to do this is, LEAVE take our Men, Wepons,Money,and Aid and just go home.

    1. Interesting. I'm pretty down with that. I think it doesn't fix the problem, though. It will embolden more attacks because they'll take it as a sign of weakness.

      Once we take our people, toys and money and go home we need to not be buying their oil, too. Are you old enough to remember the 1970s bumper sticker "We can burn our wheat, let them eat their oil"?

      Once we sever ties, the next time they attack some installation, and they will, then you smoke them. Not. One. Survivor. Fight to win instead of going PC. Oh, and a lot of federal employees more loyal to CAIR and the OIC than the US need to be gotten rid of, too.